St. Pat’s Hat 2010
Jan 26th, 2010 | By AndyBandit | Category: Features, Tournaments, st. pat's hat16th Annual St. Pat’s Hat
What:
LAOUT is proud to be continuing the St. Pat’s Hat tradition started by Mo in 1995. St. Pat’s is a coed hat tournament (each player signs up as an individual and is assigned to a team for the weekend). You must pre-register and pre-pay in order to play.
When:
Saturday & Sunday March 20-21, 2010. Games begin at 9:00 am Saturday. Please arrive NO LATER THAN 8:00 to get your JERSEY, meet your teammates, and warm up. There will be a captains’ meeting at 8:45.
Where:
Back to Balboa Fields - 17015 Burbank Blvd, Encino, Ca.
How:
Registration has closed. If you would like to sign up, please contact Tai or Lauren at stpatshat2010@gmail.com.
Cost:
We are currently working on getting a deal on jerseys for ALL of our players. Therefore, regular on time tournament fee is $45. Late registration (if there is still room in the tournament) is an additional $10, so $55 total (with no guarantee of jersey). Payment can be made via Paypal immediately after you register (preferred) OR you can mail a check made out to LAOUT to
Attn: Taiala Carvalho
950 S. Flower Street – Apt. 913
Los Angeles CA 90015
(If you mail a check please email me at stpats@laout.org and let me know to keep an eye out for it!).
Discs:
As always, available for purchase at Frisbee Central for $10!
Gender Format:
12 coed teams. Format will be 4 men 3 women if enough women register. Otherwise it will be 5 men 2 women. (To be determined after registration is complete).
Schedule:
TBD
Rules:
UPA 11th edition are in effect, with the following additions/modifications:
- Hat D’s are welcome! Looking forward to seeing all the creative hats!
- Footblocks allowed!
- Games to 13. Mirror half at 7.
- Soft Cap goes on at 80 minutes. Play to the highest score + 2. Hard cap will go on at 90 minutes. At the end of the point, if there is a clear winner, game over. If tied, play one more point.
- One timeout per half plus one floater, no timeouts during overtime. Time outs are 90 seconds.
Clothing Drive:
We’ll be having a clothing drive for Goodwill Industries at the tournament. Anyone can bring clothing (including unwanted jerseys) which can be shared at the tournament with other players and then anything left will be donated to charity.
Extras:
Field food and water (bring your own bottles) will be provided on Saturday and Sunday.
Accuracy Contest:
Thanks to DTW we will be having an accuracy contest available during your bye rounds. Report your scores to frisbee central to be eligible for a sweet prize.
Party:
TBD
Attire:
Jerseys representing the magically delicious colors of the Lucky Charms’ rainbow will be provided.
Refund Policy:
Full refund will be given to anyone who cancels their registration on or prior to February 22nd. No refund will be given after that.
Want to help or have questions?
Contact the TDs, Lauren Hill and Taiala Carvalho at stpats@laout.org.
CLICK HERE TO REGISTER
(Because registration is closed, please check with Tai or Lauren before you click this button to make sure you can still get into the tournament.)
Field Location
List of Registered Players
This year’s results
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Cheers to hat D’s!
Over/Under on Male spots filling up…2 days?
Under
registration no worky!
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just seemed to work
How much was the tourney fee last year? Is this higher?
I don’t want to be a grouch, but if we’re adding money to the fee for jerseys, I’m not behind that. I have 400 jerseys that I never wear and getting one more that I’ll never wear doesn’t interest me, especially if the tourney fee is going up because of it.
I actually requested not getting a jersey last year because I knew I would just throw it away when I got home. I still paid the whole fee which is fine, but spending extra money on jerseys seems wasteful.
How about having Calle subsidize the jersey costs with some of the Lei-Out money?
@BOFA - A great suggestion for the TDs is to have a donation bin for the jerseys after the games on Sunday, much like they had at Summer league 2(?) years ago.
Thanks for your comment BOFA, we appreciate your input!
We actually forgot to mention that we’ll be having a clothing drive for Goodwill Industries at the tournament. Anyone can bring clothing (including unwanted jerseys) which can be shared at the tournament with other players and then anything left will be donated to charity.
Anyone else who has suggestions/questions/comments/concerns/anything you want to share should please feel free to email the TDs anytime at stpatshat2010@gmail.com. We would love to hear from you!
oh good, sounds like BOFA alone can clothe the needs of a small village.
Are you guys doing fancy jerseys.. (like VC or something?)
A couple years ago Calle gave people an option to get the standard cotton shirt, or have an optional upgrade for the nicer jersey. If they chose the nicer jersey, they would get charged more. I think that’s a good solution.
I just don’t want to pay an extra 15 bucks or whatever ($30 when you consider I’m paying for Cheyanne’s bid as well) just to get a shirt that I don’t want anyway. Add on to that the chance that it could be any color of the rainbow.. god hoping its not pink or purple.
I think that the theme of this tournament should be to make it more accessible to the community. Sticking a large price tag on it kinda stinks. I don’t mind paying for a cool product (a fun tournament in my backyard), but adding on extras that I think a large percentage of the participants may not appreciate, and making them pay more for it isn’t awesome. If the jersey is 15 bucks… that makes it 1/3 of the total bid cost? … eeks. It’s certainly not 1/3 of the appeal of the tournament.
I’m coming either way. It’s a great tournament. Maybe just something to consider for this one (if there’s time) or for next year.
So excited about St. Pat’s Hat, especially out here in Moscow, where the temperature is so amazingly frickingly cold I don’t even want to tell you. Hey, are there any other “20-year Patsters” out there besides me? I know I haven’t played in them all, but I played in the first one. Who else? Charlie Mullin? ‘Swilliams? Are you out there? IMHO, there should be a special category for “OPs” (Original Patsters). We should have color-coded Depends to go with our shirts. At minimum, no two of us should EVER be on the same team. -jv
Ack. Sunday, the 21st, is also the LA Marathon.
First St Pats Hat I’ll be missing in many years
$15 extra bucks for the chance at a pink jersey?? Well, tickle me… pink.
Is all the extra fees going directly to the jerseys?? or back into the elusive St. Pat’s “slush fund” a la Leiout style??
Sounds like someones trying to pull a Calle!!
I suspect it’s a joke, but just in case….
All of the LAOUT events are run by unpaid volunteers. There’s no personal slush fund anywhere and it’s a more than a bit insulting to people who give tons of time to create these events to imply that it’s for personal gain. I know Andy Bandit was looking far and wide for someone to take over St. Pat’s Hat this year. Opinions are always welcome, questions are always fair. Personal slush fund allegations - that’s just poor form.
Now now children, let’s all play nice here. All the financial statements and tax returns are available upon request. You don’t think they’d actually have a CPA in charge of the books if there was a slush fund?
I want to play in the hat, but I can only play on saturday, I have to work on sunday. Think I can still sign up, or is it poor form to miss a day? thoughts?
If you would like to sign up to play just one day then just make a note of it in your registration. Assuming we have others to play only one day I’m sure we’ll be able to balance out the teams for both days.
Yeah, ease up, LAOUT and Leiout are two totally different organizations these days. So while Calle likely is pocketing several thousand a year, that’s not the case with LAOUT. It’s a ton of work organizing these things, so let’s give the ladies a brake, or even better, some applause for running this. We’ve always had jerseys for this tourney (or at least since I started going in 1997), ‘cuz if you tell 12-14 teams of people to dress in different shades of green… well that way lies chaos & madness. I’ve got more ugly greenish shirts than any free man should have to own, but that’s how it goes (although maybe this year the design will be less obtrusive so these shirts can be worn in other situations…?). Come to think of it, after all these years I’d probably prefer a pink shirt (’cuz we know it must’ve been in Tai’s contract that she’d only do this job if she could add a pink team. –By the way, I am really, really, really excitedly hoping that she & Ms.Hill try to come up with some name that sounds green but can actually get away with being pink, like the old “Moss” being brown). Oh, but back to the costs… I’ve heard the $ for fields have gone up, and since Summer League was $50, it doesn’t sound so unreasonable for St.Pat’s to be $45 (since you save the $5 because we don’t get discs).
Hail to the new chiefs!
The best part of this thread is that it’s now common vernacular that to rip off money and screw your friends over by pocketing cash from running a frisbee tourney while claiming you aren’t making a penny is known by everyone in LA as “Pulling a Calle.”
JV, I have been at every single one of the St. Pats tourneys, and loved them all!!! Jeff L.
Can we enforce full-on hat rules like we did a few years ago? Short explanation: 1) Everyone that is playing must wear a hat - the crazier the better and no chin straps. 2) It is a turnover if you gain possession of the disc without your hat.
Example 1 - Catch a layout and your hat falls off. Turnover.
Example 2 - Throw your hat to make a D but you miss and don’t pick up your hat. There is a turn later in the point and you gain possession. Whoops. Turn.
dislike…
Dont like the full-on hat rules.
Whats a Hat-D? Does it mean I can throw my hat at the disc?
I emailed the TD addy but haven’t heard back. Just trying to find out about jerseys… are they all men’s? women’s? unisex? Size chart anywhere? If I’m gonna wind up with a jersey I’d just like it to sort of fit!
thanks!
As a possible future resolution of t-shirtgate, I am currently on the board of an organization in Mexico that works to help people out of poverty in a community of about 1 million people outside of Mexico City. They have recently started a t-shirt printing company to employ people from the community and to allow profits to create programs for the community. They can produce a shirt for 6 or 7 dollars (before shipping). By next year they may even have the capacity to make their own shirts so that we could insure that a fair wage is being paid. In any case, we might be able to save some money and help out some people at the same time. By the way they have a technology that allows them to print with biodegradable ink which breathes but unfortunately it only works on light colored shirts. Dark shirts would require the same “plastic” printing that we get now.
JERSEYS!!
I think we told some people that we were going to order both men’s and women’s sized jerseys but we are ONLY ORDERING MEN’S. If you need a different size then please email us and let us know. Otherwise we’ll stick with what you put on your registration form! We apologize for any confusion up to this point.
Instead on focusing on what people do not like, might I suggest–and i know this is gonna sound crazy–that we focus on what we DO like? I will start
1. Thanks to Tai and Lauren for letting us pay on PAYPAL. I know that is not always easy
2. Thanks to Tai and Lauren for making sign-up hassle-free
3. Thanks to Tai and Lauren for weighing all the t-shirt options, and picking one that sounds cool, creative, and lessened the odds that I will end up with another puke-green jersey
4. Thanks to Tai and Lauren for starting early and getting good fields!
I hope that everyone realizes that while it is very easy to complain, it is, in fact, more difficult to organize. As, many decisions have to be made, and when you sign up to run one of these things, you are basically agreeing to a barrage of not-so-nice emails, and the crappy task of having to do things that will inevitably benefit the majority, but not make EVERYONE happy. Remember that sometimes it is very easy to send an angry email, but also try to think about how you like being talked to and approached and try to apply that to the people working so hard to create an ab-fab weekend of ultimate fun. I am now dismounting my high horse, which happens to be standing on a large soapbox.
I suggest everyone should be a TD for a tournament at least once. A lot of crying from spoiled children would end. You will never again wait until the last minute to turn in your registration and pay. It is easy to whine, but to step up and take responsibility to promote the game we love seems to be more difficult than it should. Help is always there for the asking. There is always the option of not going if you really have a problem with how things are handled. Props to Tai and Lauren for keeping L.A. on the map for a hat tournament. Be a TD and determine the rules you want, determine the jerseys you want. Don’t yell charge from the rear. I had people showing up at my apartment stuffing applications into my mail box on the deadline along with, ” I missed the deadline, can I still get in? ” emails. C’mon!
I’m so excited to play! Thanks TDs! Sure hope my torn ankle is recovered by then.
When MOST of the organizers are unpaid volunteers, thats “pulling a Calle”. Yup, its shitty.